View Full Version : Grouper and V-liner reduction meetings. S. Atlantic


Killer&Griller
08-27-2007, 11:30 AM
Just an FYI, if you are in the S. Atlantic area, they are hitting our fish quotas again. I will be at the meetings coming up and would hope that others will show up. At this time I am trying to align myself with some of the fisheries board members in getting the connections to have data we are willing to collect presented. I think we had a good break thru yesterday after a 3 hour meeting with one of the board members. If I can get warm bodies to show up, it would be a great start to show interest. At this point, the studies that are being used are that of either old data or logs from Fla, AGAIN. Please let me know who can go to the upcoming meetings. Until I can get the data cruncher locked in, I am just trying to show opposition. If you have any underwater photos of gags and scamps in any kind of abundance, please pm me. I will need "basic" coords, depth, etc just to document. I am going to start hitting this really hard! Anthing numbers that are sent will be completely confidential. On the redfish tagging study, when the data was summitted for areas, the red dots on the maps covered 1/2 mile and up.

http://www.safmc.net/News/NewsReleases/NewsReleaseAugust72007/tabid/533/Default.aspx

All meetings are scheduled to begin at 6:00 p.m.

September 4, 2007
Hilton Wilmington Riverside
301 N. Water Street
Wilmington, NC 28401
Phone: 910/763-5900

September 4, 2007
Sombrero Cay Clubs
19 Sombrero Blvd.
Marathon, FL 33050
Phone: 305/743-2250

September 5, 2007
Sheraton Atlantic Beach
2717 W. Fort Macon Road
Atlantic Beach, NC 28512
Phone: 252/240-1155

September 6, 2007
Hampton Inn Daytona Speedway
1715 W. Int. Speedway Blvd.
Daytona Beach, FL 32114
Phone: 386/257-4030

September 10, 2007
Holiday Inn Charleston Airport
5264 International Blvd.
N. Charleston, SC 29418
Phone: 843/576-0300

September 17, 2007
Avista Resort
300 N. Ocean Blvd.
N. Myrtle Beach, SC 29582
Phone: 843/249-2521
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Killer&Griller
08-27-2007, 01:55 PM
Tired of having decisions made for us and not goning on acurate data, I have been busy setting appointments to try to make a difference here. I have appointments with the following:

NC Fisheries Resource Grant Program in two weeks for proposals on what they are in need of for data thru FRG

Have talked with Shawn Mckean NC Fisheries Assoc

Trying to streamline what information as needed for Dr. Daniels (dir NCDMF)

Any info on how to proceed will be helpful from any of you veterans. I am serious about this and could use all the support that I can get.

Please consider taking time out of schedule to at least show up to the meetings to voice you opinion.

The biggest problem I see as of now is that the council has pretty much been dominated by the CCA and getting there agendas pushed thru any way necessary. The loophole that the Feds keep using is they can use the "best data available" excuse and I would like to throw a monkey wrench in that excuse.

Sasquatch
08-27-2007, 02:23 PM
Just an FYI, if you are in the S. Atlantic area,
September 4, 2007
Hilton Wilmington Riverside
301 N. Water Street
Wilmington, NC 28401
Phone: 910/763-5900


I can probably make it down to Wilmington for this- anyone going out that day (Tuesday?) to go spearing?

gumshoe
08-28-2007, 08:31 AM
If you have any underwater photos of gags and scamps in any kind of abundance, please pm me. I will need "basic" coords, depth, etc just to document. I am going to start hitting this really hard! Anthing numbers that are sent will be completely confidential.

Let me get this straight...you want someone to send you video showing huge fish populations, including the numbers where the video was shot...then, you promise to keep the numbers secret, except for "hitting them really hard"

Sounds like a "Win/Win!"

:lol:

Seriously, go out and say your peace, but in the political process, they have these meetings after they've already decided what to do & want to offer this "bitch session" as a fallback to future gripes - at least that's how I felt when I was the only non-commercial guy to attend the MPA meetings last year.

If you make the wife and dogs come along and get them all licenses, wouldn't that still give you a good bag limit?

Killer&Griller
08-28-2007, 10:40 AM
On the first part of your reply, blow me.:whistle: We both know you can miss a ledge, live bottom, or wreck by 50' and hit beach, the coords were just to put it in a general area, not exact.

You know now that I have sunk the teeth into this, its on.

I like the dog idea, he gets credit card apps in the mail, why not.

You are going to have the same issue down there that we have here now that you have moved. I know that meetings are their way of the public "dog and pony" show. Thats why I am going to hit it on the data suppy side also.

Quetzal
08-28-2007, 11:35 AM
SIC 'EM K&G.

Killer&Griller
08-28-2007, 12:25 PM
Denny called me today, he will be at the Myrtle Beach meeting. I told him as long as I wasn't out of town, I would be there to. I have alot of ammo coming down the pipe for everyone to read before going to the meeting so anyone that wants to speak will have qualified viable questions to ask and draw attention to. Anyone interested in receiving reading material, send me your email and I will put a bulk file together to send out. I already have 60 charter captains on the list just in the NC area alone.