View Full Version : Irans Ahmadinejad & Ground Zero


Gunny
09-21-2007, 11:40 AM
:wtf:
To think that some of Jackass was even considering letting him visit that sight is absurd!

On 2nd thought let him go,...just make sure someone has their windage and elevation right.

Whats your take on this subject? And him Visiting Columbia Col.

junior
09-21-2007, 12:15 PM
I'd prefer he never set foot on U.S. soil.

Rolo
09-21-2007, 12:38 PM
War with Iran is ongoing, albeit a proxy one in Iraq, Lebanon and regions of Afganistan. Would a member of German Nazi party have been able to speak at a prestigious American University in 1941?

What is most disturbing and hypocritical is that while Columbia welcomes Ahmadinejad to campus, Columbia students who want to serve their country cannot enroll in the Reserve Officers Training Corps (ROTC) at Columbia.

Students interested have to travel to other universities to fill their obligations. Columbia has BANNED the ROTC since 1969. So much for "freedom of speech". Even after being polled a few years ago where students supported reinstating ROTC on campus, the president (Bollinger) joined opponents in defeating the effort to invite them back.

So in essence, Columbia University is friendlier to Ahmadinejab than to the U.S. military. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Kaan
09-21-2007, 02:13 PM
All this is a publicity stunt for ahmedinejad, he has no love or respect for those who died sept.11
he`s %100 in line with his sprutual leader Ayetullah humeyni as he did 1980. he is the same person take over Us embassy in Tehran. Only reason he got elected for those extreme views he had. period.
he was much bigger problem for us then Saddam ever was.
Now he is even greater danger, since we liberated all those shiite goons in Iraq for him to use in his agenda. we had it right 1980 war beetwen Iraq and Iran to support Iraq over Iran which it did help us stop Ayetollahs plan to export islamic revolution to other nation. Since we accupied Iraq, help Iran to get control of Iraq. you know majority in iraq Shiites and they are very much in line with their big brothers in Iran.

Wayward Son
09-21-2007, 02:44 PM
He needs a bullet & a beat down.

Sasquatch
09-21-2007, 04:00 PM
I don't think Iran had anything to do with 9/11. Maybe a Saudi visiting would be a little weird...

But I agree that it was a political stunt- but Iran benefitted either way. If his visit was accepted, then he could claim that Iran is joining the brotherhood of nations. Now that he got rejected, he can claim the US is not accepting gestures of peace.

Sasquatch
09-21-2007, 04:03 PM
we hade it right 1980 war beetwen Iraq and Iran to support Iraq over Iran which it did help us stop Ayetollahs plan to export islamic revolution to other nation. Since we accupied Iraq, help Iran to get control of Iraq. you know majority in iraq Shiites and they are very much in line with their big brothers in Iran.

I'm gonna have to disagree in a big way. First of all, Iraq attacked Iran because of Saddam's plan to take over all the oil he could (ever heard of Kuwait?). Secondly, it was a disaster for us because we ended up supporting a ruthless dictator, and gave him weapons of mass destruction (which was conveniently used on Iraqi Kurds).

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is not correct when they are both your enemy.

Kaan
09-21-2007, 05:50 PM
I'm gonna have to disagree in a big way. First of all, Iraq attacked Iran because of Saddam's plan to take over all the oil he could (ever heard of Kuwait?). Secondly, it was a disaster for us because we ended up supporting a ruthless dictator, and gave him weapons of mass destruction (which was conveniently used on Iraqi Kurds).

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is not correct when they are both your enemy.

I do agree with you for what Saddam did. We all know what he did the kurds and I do Remember Kuwait thats why when he invated Kuwait rest of the world did support our action; you know it was a just couse, But I could not say that; for this time.
you know world politics is a very difficult to deal with it. Some time you do end up doing thins it may not be most nobel action you may have take it; regardless of ethic or not; you do end up taking some actions may not be the ideal, all I am saying is Iraq was a more stable before we invated; and did not have any Al qaida runing around for the fact Iraq was a secular regime and Saddam has no bussiness with Osama. yes it wasnt the best country for living in it; but it wasnt breeding ground for those are killing our boys either.
As far is Saddam goes that was for Iraqi people to dealth with it. not us.
you cant export democracy to people; if you do that there is lot more countries out there run by dictators so what about them? opppps I forgat they do not have oil:D:D:D
or what about Darfur arab militia killed millions; what are we doing about it?
or what did we do about any other nations in similar situation?

Kaan
09-21-2007, 05:53 PM
I don't think Iran had anything to do with 9/11. Maybe a Saudi visiting would be a little weird...

But I agree that it was a political stunt- but Iran benefitted either way. If his visit was accepted, then he could claim that Iran is joining the brotherhood of nations. Now that he got rejected, he can claim the US is not accepting gestures of peace.

Did I say Iran was behind 9/11?

Capt.Gene
09-21-2007, 08:24 PM
I saw photo's of him while involved in an illegal act maybe 15 years ago. Can't remember what event, but he was never arrested or brought to justice.
We should arrest him and put him on trial.:whip:

Wayward Son
09-21-2007, 08:33 PM
He headed up the group that took Americans hostage in Iran during Carters term.

Ed Walker
09-21-2007, 09:39 PM
I say let him loose in NY with no security, or maybe a few Iranians for security, perhaps even publish his travel route in the NY Times, then let nature take its course.

Kaan
09-21-2007, 09:51 PM
I saw photo's of him while involved in an illegal act maybe 15 years ago. Can't remember what event, but he was never arrested or brought to justice.
We should arrest him and put him on trial.:whip:

1980 he was the one of those took over US embassy in Tehran, and hold them hostage for months,
embassies are consider land of that country other words he hold american citizen and diplomats against their will in american soil

Kaan
09-21-2007, 09:55 PM
He headed up the group that took Americans hostage in Iran during Carters term.

yes it coast him second term

Wayward Son
09-21-2007, 10:02 PM
That wasn't the only thing that got him booted.

Kaan
09-21-2007, 10:04 PM
That wasn't the only thing that got him booted.

that and high oil price

Wayward Son
09-21-2007, 10:08 PM
Those are just the start of the list. We collectively shoved a boot up his ass so far he's still trying to get it out, and it was for a whole long list of reasons, not one or 2 simple ones. I was very aware of his administration & its failings at the time & was one who couldn't see him gone fast enough.

Kaan
09-21-2007, 10:12 PM
:smthumbup::smthumbup::smthumbup:I am very sure you could make a list from your house the all the way to Georgia
but for main stream folks, two that I mentioned did it.

Wayward Son
09-21-2007, 10:16 PM
Sorry, but I was here at the time. I knew those main stream folks. It was NOT those 2 items. Both were important, but there was far more than them at play against him.

Sasquatch
09-21-2007, 10:19 PM
Did I say Iran was behind 9/11?

Did I quote you saying something about it? The only thing I quoted you on was your being happy that we propped up Saddam.

Kaan
09-21-2007, 10:25 PM
No I wont
but what I was saying is; he is visiting ground zero just a publicity stunt for him. of course there was no Iranian involved in 9/11 but thats not mean he felt sorry for what happing.Remember 1984 Beirut who was behind Hezbullah?

Wayward Son
09-21-2007, 10:30 PM
That's the difference between Iran & Panama. The president of Panama would not be denied bc Panama is not a terrorist state, providing support to those we're at war with. Iran is, they're waging a proxy war against us in Iraq & Afghanistan by providing weapons to Al Qaeda & other jihadists to use in killing out troops. His interest in going to ground zero is most likely to enjoy himself by observing the damage these people inflicted up close & personal.

Kaan
09-21-2007, 10:39 PM
Did I quote you saying something about it? The only thing I quoted you on was your being happy that we propped up Saddam.

no I was not propped up for our help to Saddam;
but it did help to stop exporting green (islamic green that is) revolutions to other countries. You dont think that would be good thing, do you?