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firefyterx
06-09-2008, 10:42 PM
Talk about putting your most valuable where your mouth is! Apparently this
was not 'newsworthy'enough for the media to comment about. Can either of the other presidential candidates truthfully come close to this? .... Just a question for each of us to seek an answer,and not a statement.

You see...character is what's shown when the public is not looking. There
were no cameras or press invited to what you are about to read about, and the story comes from one person in New Hampshire.

One evening last July, Senator John McCain of Arizona arrived at the New Hampshire home of Erin Flanagan for sandwiches, chocolate-chip cookies and a heartfelt talk about Iraq. They had met at a presidential debate, when she
asked the candidates what they would do to bring home American soldiers - -
soldiers like her brother, who had been killed in action a few months earlier.

Mr. McCain did not bring cameras or press. Instead, he brought his youngest son, James McCain, 19, then a private first class in the Marine Corps about to leave for Iraq. Father and son sat down to hear more about Ms. Flanagan's brother Michael Cleary, a 24-year-old Army First Lieutenant killed by an ambush ... a roadside bomb.

No one mentioned the obvious: In just days, Jimmy McCain could face
similar perils. 'I can't imagine what it must have been like for them as they were
coming to meet with a family that ......' Ms. Flanagan recalled, choking up. 'We lost a dear one,' she finished.

Mr. McCain, now the presumptive Republican nominee, has staked his
candidacy on the promise that American troops can bring stability to Iraq. What he almost never says is that one of them is his own son, who spent seven
months patrolling Anbar Province and learned of his father's New Hampshire victory
in January while he was digging a stuck military vehicle out of the mud.

Two of Jimmy's three older brothers went into the military. Doug McCain, 48, was a Navy pilot. Jack McCain, 21, is to graduate from the Naval Academy next year, raising the chances that his father, if elected, could become the first president since Dwight D. Eisenhower with a son at war.

I chose to share this with those who I believe will pass it on, to others
who will pass it on. We hear so much inflated trash out there. How about a simple
act of kindness ... and dedication to others placed above oneself?

Has anybody heard if Barack Hussein Obama has served in The American Armed
Services?

This is for all you Barack voters.

From Barack's book, Audacity of Hope:

'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly
direction.'

HE DID NOT SAY STAND WITH AMERICANS!!!!!

sremsen
06-10-2008, 10:04 AM
GW Bush never even finished his commitment to the National Guard during the Vietnam War and yet I am sure you had no problems voting for him. Obama came of age in the post-Vietnam period when the US was downsizing its military and there was no war that the US was involved in. I give credit to McCain for serving his country but just because someone was in the military doesnt mean they would make a good president.

Sasquatch
06-10-2008, 10:13 AM
I think any candidate should have served in the military- after all, one of the 'hats' of the president is commander in chief of the military. If you don't know the risks of going to war, you'll get a moron playing video games, like our own cowboy- who has 'shocked and awed' the world with his idiocy.

It is true that we'll get good presidents who haven't, and bad ones who did (Jimmy Carter).

It used to be conventional wisdom that anyone running for senate had military service. Too bad more people didn't give Ron Paul a chance.

Marcus
06-10-2008, 11:17 AM
This is for all you Barack voters.

From Barack's book, Audacity of Hope:

'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly
direction.'

HE DID NOT SAY STAND WITH AMERICANS!!!!!

I don't like Obama nor McCain and won't be voting for them, but what I can't stand is the mis-informed perpetuation of lies.

"A second false quote has Obama saying he would "stand with the Muslims," words that don't appear in his book. What he actually said is that he would stand with American immigrants from Pakistan or Arab countries should they be faced with something like the forced detention of Japanese-American families in World War II:

Misleading e-mail: From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Actual quote from "The Audacity of Hope" [pg. 261]: Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
Obama did not say he would side with "the Muslims," which could easily be read as meaning he would side with the world's Muslim population even if it meant working outside the best interests of the United States. He said he would side with "them," referring back to his mention of immigrant communities and specifically to "Arab and Pakistani Americans." Furthermore, he was speaking of an "ugly direction" like the mass internment of Japanese Americans.

This false quote goes hand in hand with the equally false rumor that Obama is a Muslim. "
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

Please check your facts before posting them to a public board as such.

Aaron Proffitt
06-10-2008, 01:49 PM
Too bad more people didn't give Ron Paul a chance.

But we still have Bob Barr.

Marcus
06-10-2008, 02:00 PM
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/273/ron-paul-satisfies-ballot-requirements-nationwide/

"Press Releases › Ron Paul Satisfies Ballot Requirements Nationwide
March 21, 2008 5:30 pm EST

Ron Paul Satisfies Ballot Requirements Nationwide

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

March 21, 2008


ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has satisfied the ballot requirements for all U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico as of yesterday, March 20, 2008.


“Dr. Paul’s message of peace, freedom and prosperity has broad appeal” said campaign chairman Kent Snyder. “Well-organized and determined volunteers throughout America made this possible.” "

This will be my candidate.

Sasquatch
06-10-2008, 02:51 PM
But we still have Bob Barr.

And I'll be voting for him. Because I refuse to vote for the lessor of two evils- don't vote for evil.

Aaron Proffitt
06-10-2008, 03:00 PM
And I'll be voting for him. Because I refuse to vote for the lessor of two evils- don't vote for evil.

I am, too. Sick of the attitude displayed by the parties.

sremsen
06-10-2008, 05:22 PM
I don't like Obama nor McCain and won't be voting for them, but what I can't stand is the mis-informed perpetuation of lies.

"A second false quote has Obama saying he would "stand with the Muslims," words that don't appear in his book. What he actually said is that he would stand with American immigrants from Pakistan or Arab countries should they be faced with something like the forced detention of Japanese-American families in World War II:

Misleading e-mail: From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Actual quote from "The Audacity of Hope" [pg. 261]: Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
Obama did not say he would side with "the Muslims," which could easily be read as meaning he would side with the world's Muslim population even if it meant working outside the best interests of the United States. He said he would side with "them," referring back to his mention of immigrant communities and specifically to "Arab and Pakistani Americans." Furthermore, he was speaking of an "ugly direction" like the mass internment of Japanese Americans.

This false quote goes hand in hand with the equally false rumor that Obama is a Muslim. "
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

Please check your facts before posting them to a public board as such.

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