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Shannon
10-07-2008, 09:38 PM
I got this email yesterday,


AMENDMENT 16 –PROPOSED GROUPER CLOSURE
&
INTERIM RULE TALKING POINTS
OCTOBER 1, 2008

Mr. Bob Mahood, SAFMC Executive Director and Dr. Roy Crabtree, NOAA Regional Administrator are both on record as saying the basis for the Council’s decision to close the shallow water grouper fishery for four months is based on the 2001 Potts/Brennan paper presented to the SAFMC.

The Potts/Brennan paper is a simple Catch/Curve Analysis and does not constitute a stock assessment and is therefore wholly inadequate to justify a closure. Seven years later, with such major economic consequences at risk, we have been assured by a stock assessment scientist that this Catch/Curve analysis, even if conducted today, much less seven years ago, would not be approved as best available science for determining the overfished or overfishing status of a fishery.

The Science and Statistical Committee (SSC) essentially stated the same point in a 2005 report to the Council that only full stock assessments as conducted by the NMFS SEDAR process constitute the best available science. The implication being that the 2001 Potts/Brennan paper does not represent the best available science.

Moreover, if the Council and NMFS felt the Potts/Brennan paper carried such great weight, why have they not acted to reduce fishing mortality for black and red grouper or instituted a management plan during the past seven years?

In NMFS, Council and SSC discussions throughout 2004 and 2005, regarding grouper management, it was repeatedly stated gag and black grouper cannot be combined into a single aggregate because gags are a temperate water fish and blacks are a subtropical fish and they do not co-occur in any significant amount.

There has never been a South Atlantic SEDAR stock assessment on any of the species of grouper included in the proposed closure under the Interim Rule or Amendment 16 except for gag grouper.

In addition to the foregoing, the following required fishery management plan analyses are inadequate to justify a complete closure of the shallow water grouper fishery during our most valuable time of the year.
An OMB Regulatory Impact Review, an SBA Regulatory Impact Review and a Social Impact Assessment

We are asking the Secretary of Commerce to amend the Interim Rule and Amendment 16 to include gag grouper only and exempt the other species of shallow water grouper until the best available science has been acquired and properly acted upon.

Shannon
10-07-2008, 09:39 PM
Points to consider when writing your letter:

*Why not just wait until the 09 assessments come out before taking such an extraordinary premature action that puts charter and party boats out of business?

*Why punish South Florida and the Keys during our tourist season when the Gag Grouper you need to save only amounts to 1% of our Grouper catch? Nothing is accomplished to save the Gag Grouper but fishermen in the keys are put out of business as well as impacting the total economy of the keys.

*Why close all species of groupers? The stock assessments that show the other species of Grouper as experiencing over fishing are over ten years old. (1998) No recent analysis has been forthcoming from the council.

*Red Grouper in the Gulf (north side of the keys) has recently (August 08) been classified as “recovered”. Current research has shown that Red Groupers mature at 13 inches rather than 18 inches. This research impacts the decision making on Red Grouper in the South Atlantic and is not being considered.

*We offered to lower bag limits (by 40%) on all grouper and implement a year round closure on Gag Grouper but this was not considered by the council as an alternative.

Shannon
10-07-2008, 09:46 PM
I don't know much more about this, someone who lives in Marathon sent it to me.


U.S. Secretary of Commerce
Secretary Carlos Gutierrez
1410 Constitution Ave. NW, Washington, DC 20230
202-482-2000

Duane Harris
Chairman, South Atlantic Fisheries Management Council
Att: Kim Iverson PIO
4055 Faber Place Drive, Suite 201
N. Charleston, SC 29405
843-571-4366

Sarah Gamino
Legislative Director
Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (FL-18)
2160 Rayburn House Office Building
202-225-3931

Ed Walker
10-08-2008, 12:20 AM
Absolutely right and good for you for getting involved. Even if there is a reason for closing gags, there is positively NO REASON TO CLOSE BLACKS OR REDS! I would hammer that point over and over again. The FRA was successful in suing the NMFS over the exact same issue in an interim rule here in the Gulf. The federal judge agreed: they cannot close additional species other than the one they have assessed to be over fished. and had very strong words for NMFS about over stepping thier authority.
IMO it is high time for a lawsuit to put an end to the unfair, unreasonable, and unjustified practice of Piggy-backing other fish onto the closure of one. It has gone completely haywire.
Where does it end? Soon every species in the ocean will be closed to "protect" just a few deemed over-fished. Currently there is no rule to limit how many they can close to protect just one. Who's to say they dont simply stop all bottom fishing so you dont accidentally catch a nearly extinct beeliner?
Its total crap and it needs to stop.

noland8929
10-08-2008, 11:52 AM
everyone needs to get involved.... this is unfair!

Toledo970
10-08-2008, 07:05 PM
Shannon,
I copied and posted this to another site also. Hope your OK with it. Just trying to help.

Shannon
10-08-2008, 08:36 PM
Shannon,
I copied and posted this to another site also. Hope your OK with it. Just trying to help.

Thanks,
The person who sent me the email dives but she doesn't fish and
even she is not happy with whats going on.
What other site did you post it on?

Salt Creek Slayer
10-08-2008, 09:18 PM
Thanks Shannon.


:smthumbup:Dinner at my place on the 22nd.

captshorthop
10-08-2008, 10:41 PM
Hopefully everyone has sent their letters to Secretary Gutierrez. He is the only person that can stop this B.S. without a lawsuit. Congresswoman Ros-Lehtinen is on our side and is supposed to meet with Secretary Gutierrez to explain the facts from our side in the Keys.