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    Default Catamaran hull vs V hull

    I'm in the market for at least a 26' to 30' Center console boat with twin outboards and I want some pros and cons of a Catamaran hull vs a V hull. Thanks for your help fellas.
    "ROLL TIDE"

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    My catamaran is a little smaller, at about 23', but I think that most of the pros and cons would apply. I should also note that mine has a planing hull, so things might be a little different if you are looking at displacement or semi-displacement designs.

    Cons -
    1. Cats are a little more sensitive to weight distribution, especially aft. I have the anti-cavitaion plate mounted hydrofoils on mine, which help a lot with getting up on plane.
    2. Mine doesn't run especially well in a sea off the aft quarter, because the leading bow will dig into the wave trough.
    3. Although they are very stable at rest, the reaction to waves is a little different. I have had people get sick on my boat who claim that they have never been seasick before.
    4. They don't lean into turns. I can't imagine one actually flipping, but the motion can be a little unsettling until you're used to it.
    5. Less below decks space.
    6. Can be difficult to track straight when trolling, because both motors must be at the same rpm or the boat will veer slightly.

    Pros -

    1. More room for the same length, because the bow is squared off.
    2. Excellent dive platforms, especially if you put a transom door and dive ladder between the motors.
    3. Run very well into head seas. I can usually cruise side by side with mono-hulls 50% longer.
    4. Very stable at rest. Several people gathered on one side is no problem.
    5. Stability at slow speed, and their ability to knife through a slight chop, makes them excellent platforms for side scan sonar.
    6. Amazing close quarters maneuverability. I can put one outboard in forward, the other in reverse, and turn in my own radius like a tugboat. This is especially useful if I want to fish without dropping anchor because I can easily hold station around a marker buoy.
    7. No noticeable "planing point". A monohull wants to run slow, or get up on plane, but a cat can run at almost any speed. This is particularly usefull when I get caught in rough seas. If I can't get up to cruising speed (around 24kts), then I can throttle back and run 15-16 kts. Most monohulls can't run at that "in between" speed.

    Hope this helps.

    Tin Man - University of Alabama class of 1992

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    I have a 23 Aquasport Tournament Cat with twin 150hp Yamahas and I will never go back to v hulls,,,,,the cat are super stable,fast,roomy,,,economical and great for diving. Go with the cat you will not regret it. Top speed is 52, I can cruise all day at 38mph and not burn a hole in my pocket.

    Hope this helps with your decision
    Last edited by Felix B.; 09-15-2007 at 03:18 PM.
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    If you are going to spend the money, get a Cat, I have been running a Glacier Bay for about a year now and everytime I get into a V-Hull I end up with back pain from the constant pounding. The Glacier Bay is a non planing hull and seems to run a bit more stable than other cat hulls.

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    Oh, what a bunch of bullshit....

    I went the cat route, and promptly went back. Lets see, they are slow, the hulls flex so much it will make your ass pucker, they suck fuel, the ride is no better than a well designed deep V, and on and on and on.... Their is not a cat made that can hang with my Intrepid, PERIOD. As far as shorter cat boats running with longer deep vees, HORSESHIT!! BTW - those shorter cat boats cost just as much as those longer deep vee's

    Just my $.02
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    SP, what type of cat did you own?

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    25' Sea Cat
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    didn't the cat take a 3' head chop better than your V?

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    You should take a ride in the Glacier some day if you havent already. I have been in other cats, like the pro cat and others that ride as hard as a vhull. I am not trying to change your opinion but I have been in them both as well as owning vhulls all my life. I have not ridden in a vhull or another cat the same size that handles 3-4 footers as good as the Glacier that I run now. I top out at about 40mph but I can cruise in 3-4 footers at between 30-32mps and not get the crap beat out of me.

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    If your Glacier Bay does 40, it defies all the marketing data they put out. Fact of the matter, is that Glacier Bay is a displacement hull and under a load rarely achieves a cruise speed even in the high 20's. BTW, for what a 25 ish Glacier Bay costs, you can get a 30ish center console, thats a fact...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ITSABOUTTIME View Post
    didn't the cat take a 3' head chop better than your V?

    Absolutely NOT. My Intrepid will walk all over a 2-3 chop. Its length allows it to span the waves, unlike the shorter hulls.
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    I completely agree with Spearchucker!! No way a cat can hang with my 35' Island Runner. I have been on several different brands and styles and have almost been thrown out of all of them. I will say that a 23 cat might ride better than a 23 mono hull in a lot of conditions but there is no way it could hang with a 32' blus mono hull.

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    I have a Yamaha R1 motorcycle and there is no 600cc motorcycle that can hang with that either. Lets compare the same size boats if we are going to compare, I am in a 26ft. The FACT of the matter is, at 4000 rpms I am cruising at 33 mph, and at that rate I have a fuel burn rate of about 18-19 gph.
    Last edited by Greg; 09-15-2007 at 11:30 PM.

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    I hear that the cats are good for smaller stuff like less than 3-4's but anything over I hear they are worse than a center console because of the hull slap in the middle. Love our 30' Donzi. We can stay on top of the waves and never have to go down inbetween the swells, and definately agree with the price. Those things are way expensive compared to a Center Console.

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    I agree with the price difference. All the cats I have looked at are seveal thousand dollars more for the same year model and length when compared to a mono V hull. I have been on both type boats with the cat being the best ride between the two(from the few cats I've been on vs dozens of mono V hull boats).

    What is the difference in the displacement type hulls? I undersatnd about the planning hulls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstbecauz View Post
    I have a Yamaha R1 motorcycle and there is no 600cc motorcycle that can hang with that either. Lets compare the same size boats if we are going to compare, I am in a 26ft. The FACT of the matter is, at 4000 rpms I am cruising at 33 mph, and at that rate I have a fuel burn rate of about 18-19 gph.
    Well, I would agree with that except for the fact that 26' cat boats are priced like 32' v-hulls. 26' cat boats should not be compared to 26' vhulls because they cost a shitload more.

    BTW - I cruise LOADED HEAVILY at 38mph burning 22 gph.
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    Default wow los of opinions

    we'll heres mine 28ft prosport cat hull.
    1. Awesome ride most anyone who has been in my boat in any kind of seas says this
    2. Honda's great on fuel, I think deisels motors or inboards are way to go to save fuel but outboards are easy to work on..
    3. Cat Hulls do tend to dig into waves takes getting use to pulls right or left sometimes .
    4. Have been in some rough seas boat takes them all on but rough is rough no matter what your on. Cat hull doesn't jolt my teeth like my v hull did.
    5. Get a dive platform on back AWESOME feature glad I got.
    6. MAIN THING get boat YOU want this is a big expense and you have to live with her. Very little I would change on my boat after having her for 5 yrs other then larger fuel tanks only have 120 each tank wish I had 150gals.
    7. My cat is much lighter then my pals with a v hull not sure if make difference
    8. take a ride of both make you own decesion seems like everyone on here likes there boat which means that what they did.
    good luck

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    Definately more $$$ for the same size boat.

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    A cat hull of equal power/length will never run as fast as a mono...period.(We're talking fishing boats now) Cat hulls are built a with a heavy lay up of fiberglass. They do turn funny, they don't lean into it the turn, they stay flat. There are many different designs for cat hulls, each claiming to be the best. One thing to look at is the size of the tunnel. This has a direct impact on cruise/top/planing speed, as air gets packed in there and gives the hull lift....Sea trial as many as possible.

    I did some work on a Renassaince Marine Cat and was able to sea trial it after. Being a marine mechanic I have the chance to sea trial many boats. I thought this rode a lot better and was a lot faster than Glacier Bay, and World Cat.
    http://www.renaissancecats.com/index.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spearchucker View Post
    Absolutely NOT. My Intrepid will walk all over a 2-3 chop. Its length allows it to span the waves, unlike the shorter hulls.
    I am not a huge fan of cats but I had a sportcat 265 same as a seacat cuddy and in anything under 4' you could leave a coke can on the console. Off plane anchoring the bow would dig. In Beam seas off plane it was bad. All hull designs I think do some things better than others.

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