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Thread: IFQ, Misunderstandings and Fishing Rights Violations

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    "Ecosystems with healthy shark populations are also believed to be more resilient to climate change." EDF

    I wonder how the IFQ/EDF cheerleaders can look themselves in the mirror now that they are jumping in bed with the group that says things like the above comment. Somewhere deep down inside they gotta know.....
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    How does EDF come up with this twisted logic? The disappearence of parrotfish, angelfish, butterflies, surgeon fish and all other herbivores has more to do with the decades of fish trapping than any explosion of the grouper population. The grouper were trapped out years ago. Now, the fishermen target the herbivores--it has nothing to do with shark removal.

    I spent a week diving around St. Thomas not too long ago. I saw very few snapper and even less grouper--clear water, you can see nothing for a long way.

    Don

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    OK, I think I can see where this is going. It's going to be like farm subsidies and soon big fishing will get paid for NOT fishing like big farming gets paid for not planting.

    Reminds me of corn and soybean allotments, catch shares=allotments

    I'm wondering why recreational fishing is not like planting corn in a garden for your own consumption, and can even sell some at a roadside stand.

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    The South AtlanticCouncil just voted to stop development of catch shares for all fisheries execpt golden crab and wreckfish. Not only was there too much oppostion from fishermen, but their concerns were valid.

    So, the council listened this time around. The issue is not dead, but this is a major setback for EDF.

    Don

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    Default A Tale of Woe!

    I began my commercial fishing career back in the late 1970’s. We use to catch our entire trip on bandit reels. These electric reels worked off of 12 volt starter motors. We would catch 1 our 2 fish at a time. We would anchor over a likely spot and drop down 1 or 2 hook rigs. Then we waited for the bite and set the hook with our hands. Most boats were 2 manned crews and our trips lasted 7 to 10 days. A good trip would be 3000 pounds, but there were no size limits. Any time we would catch small fish, we would simply change locations. The price of fish stayed pretty much the same year round.
    The sword fish fishery was much further off the coast than bottom fishery. I recall 1 year in the early 1980’s there was a particularly bad sword fishing season. Two of the swordfish fleet decided to try bottom fishing with there long line gear. It was at this point that the fishery got out of hand, in my opinion. Instead of a good trip being 3000 lbs, now a good trip required 10-15,000 lbs (it took 3,000 lbs or more just to cover your overhead). Crews went from 3 to 5 men on average and expenses climbed through the roof. Our trips got longer, the boats got bigger and fish prices dropped sharply. As much as I loved bandit fishing, I didn’t have the resource to compete.
    The fishery industry had to be regulated. The offshore experience I once loved turned into a floating factory job that pressed its crews 24/7. The industry became much more dangerous for less money. We saved Christmas tree ridge for Christmas time. Independent commercial fishermen were their own worst enemy; we couldn’t regulate ourselves so the government stepped in and now they rule our once proud and independent industry with an iron fist. We have federal, state and local government entities controlling our inshore fishery. And what the government doesn’t take from independent commercial fishermen, the fish companies do. I was forced to give up.
    I truly believe if the fishery went back to bandit boats, with a 10 percent by catch of under sized grouper, the whole problem would sort itself out. Prices would stay up and demand would increase. Fishery would replenish itself and fishermen would have a much safer working environment.

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    right now it's quite obvious that the government and large quota holders want a handful of longline boats catching all the quota. as it is right now the small time operations are dropping out one by one leaving the big quota barons with more opportunity to snatch up the whole fishery. once prominent and respected spearfisherman that were on this board are now pushing for the gulf council to put more fish on the ifq system further destroying the independent fisherman's ability to make a living on the water.

    what is also troubling is that there is no opportunity for younger fisherman to get into the fishery as owners. at best they can work for a corporation and receive a percentage of what they catch. as it stands right now greedy old men and business interests who never spend a day on the water will end up owning the entire grouper and red snapper fishery.

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