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    Default Goliath Grouper season being considered by FWC?

    I just got this email, looks like they are talking about Goliath Grouper take

    Dear Dive Professional:



    You may be aware that a meeting of the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission is scheduled for September 10 - 11, 2014 in Kissimmee, Florida, during which the FWC will issue a staff report on the biology, research, and management status of goliath grouper. The staff report will also describe a stakeholder survey conducted by the University of Florida on spear fishers', hook and line fishers' and recreational (non-spearing) divers' attitudes and goals for goliath grouper management in Florida.



    The agenda for this meeting can be found here.



    Given the continued scientific uncertainty regarding the recovery of goliath grouper populations, DEMA favors the continuation of the current moratorium on harvest of this species, as we have since 2011. However, we do believe it is important to capture the opinions of all diving stakeholders on this issue.



    We are asking you to please complete a brief questionnaire regarding the future management of the goliath grouper, by 4:00pm Eastern Time, Tuesday, September 9, 2014. This data will be helpful for assisting the FWC in their constructing their goliath grouper management plans and will be utilized at the FWC meeting.



    For those interested in attending, the FWC meeting is open to the public.



    Meeting will take place at:

    Time: 8:30am

    Date: September 10 - 11, 2014.

    Place: Embassy Suites Orlando - Lake Buena Vista South,

    4955 Kyngs Heath Road, Kissimmee, Florida 34746.



    DEMA, the Diving Equipment & Marketing Association, is an international organization dedicated to the sustained growth of the recreational scuba diving and snorkeling industry. For more information on DEMA, call 858-616-6408 or visit The Diving Equipment & Marketing Association.

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    As one of the official Stakeholder representatives that sat on the last Goliath grouper stock assessment, I can tell you with much certainty... It aint gonna happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richt View Post
    As one of the official Stakeholder representatives that sat on the last Goliath grouper stock assessment, I can tell you with much certainty... It aint gonna happen.
    Rogers on that. They throw us a bone every now and then and bring it up for discussion..........but it never goes anywhere. I would be absolutely shocked if they ever allow harvest again.
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    Seems like once "protected" something always stays that way. Sort of the equivalent of a tax really never goes away.. it's just replaced with a new one.
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    If I wasn't in South America I would take the stroll up I4 to pitch in my 2 cents.
    incidentally, the link that lets you vote on the pole was 67% keep it protected and 33% No holds bard open season, there were no votes in between for slots, tags, limited harvest etc, just all or nothing. I would bet when you looked at 100 divers, 67 are lookyloo divers and 33 are spearos, so that probably is the reason for the poll numbers.

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    It wont happen in my lifetime.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seatux View Post
    It wont happen in my lifetime.....
    Ditto
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    they did eventually do it with alligators ..and I thought it would not happen .. but when you get alligators bothering people .. things change ..I think GG s should be caught hook and line only .. and with tags .. spearing them is just too easy ( yes im old enough to have done it ).. and I GG picture with a spear in it would harm our sport ...

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    Have what may be looked at as a dumb question, but GG have always been protected as long I have have been diving. Are they any good to eat? They have been closed since the 80s or 90s right, so I'm sure a few people on here used to harvest them. If they did open them would you actually shoot them to eat and how would they compare to gag or black?

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    Very good to eat, we can hunt them down here in Ecuador, someone shot a 400+lb one a few weeks ago down here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narc'd View Post
    Very good to eat, we can hunt them down here in Ecuador, someone shot a 400+lb one a few weeks ago down here
    I'm curious. Since you can hunt them down there, do they avoid divers with guns? Around here I swear they follow us around just waiting for the opportunity to remove the fish we shoot from our spears, like we take meat off a shikabob.
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    Tastes like grouper, just more of it ... my buddy has a recipe to boil them (not sure of the entire recipe but potatoes are the secrete) and if you cut it up correctly with the rows of mussel, it looks & tastes like lobster!!! I'm sure that is the reason why we got more for then in the keys than what we got for gags/blacks!

    Yes, I'm old enough to know what it is like to shoot them, they were somewhat wary of divers but still not much different that shooting red grouper. They are the cause of our diminishing lobster stock on the west coast - every one I got had several lobsters in it's stomach. They are the vacuum cleaners of the bottom, they eat everything. Might be an argument to MNFS in helping restore our fishery (LOL). They are the cause of the lower gag, ARS, triggerfish, etc populations, too bad NMFS has an agenda and will not listen to common sense! More $$ in selling dive trips to lookers that can dive with big fish, they way it is going for all of us, trade in your gun for a camera!

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    Do they have worms like the Reds or clean like the Gags and Blacks? I would shoot a lot less Reds and Gags if I could shoot (1) 400 pounder a year.

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    It's too bad there isn't a season on them. Hell, they are the only fish that I can honestly say I have GREAT GPS numbers for finding them . . . . pretty much every number I drop on - LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel mcqueen View Post
    they did eventually do it with alligators ..and I thought it would not happen .. but when you get alligators bothering people .. things change ..I think GG s should be caught hook and line only .. and with tags .. spearing them is just too easy ( yes im old enough to have done it ).. and I GG picture with a spear in it would harm our sport ...
    Pretty easy to hunt. Like Ray said, about as smart as Red Groupers. Finding them isn't that hard anymore, just go where you used to find spiny and shovelnose lobsters. Look around and if all the lobsters are gone, there be the liar of some GGs.
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    Saw this article. Unsurprisingly, big, old fish have high mercury levels. Unsuprisingly, they will use this lack food quality to keep it closed.

    Mercury a concern for fish and humans - Jupiter Dive Center

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    Good eats! Used to shoot em off the east coast in the early 80's but would target the smaller ones 80-100lbs (since I have had my ass kicked by even smaller fish). Anything bigger and a good chance of not getting it and/or hurting yourself.....plus try pulling a bigger one in the boat and putting it in a cooler. 100lb GG is plenty of meat, trust me. Ahhh, the good old days of one of these and a dozen 10+lb spinys in 35fsw!!!

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