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    Exclamation FDA to ban sale of raw oysters from Gulf of Mexico

    http://www.ocala.com/article/2009102...CLES/910279949


    The Associated Press

    Published: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 4:36 p.m.
    Last Modified: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 4:37 p.m.

    NEW ORLEANS — Federal officials plan to ban sales of raw oysters harvested from the Gulf of Mexico unless the shellfish are treated to destroy potentially deadly bacteria — a requirement that opponents say could deprive diners of a delicacy cherished for generations.

    The plan has also raised concern among oystermen that they could be pushed out of business.

    The Gulf region supplies about two-thirds of U.S. oysters, and some people in the $500 million industry argue that the anti-bacterial procedures are too costly. They insist adequate measures are already being taken to battle germs, including increased refrigeration on oyster boats and warnings posted in restaurants.

    About 15 people die each year in the United States from raw oysters infected with Vibrio vulnificus, which typically is found in warm coastal waters between April and October. Most of the deaths occur among people with weak immune systems caused by health problems like liver or kidney disease, cancer, diabetes, or AIDS.

    "Seldom is the evidence on a food-safety problem and solution so unambiguous," Michael Taylor, a senior adviser at the Food and Drug Administration, told a shellfish conference in Manchester, N.H., earlier this month in announcing the policy change.

    Some oyster sellers say the FDA rule smacks of government meddling. The sales ban would take effect in 2011 for oysters harvested in the Gulf during warm months.

    "We have one man who's 97 years old, and he comes in here every week and gets his oyster fix, no matter what month it is," said Mark DeFelice, head chef at Pascal's Manale Restaurant in New Orleans. "There comes a time when we need to be responsible. Government doesn't need to be involved in this."

    The anti-bacterial process treats oysters with a method similar to pasteurization, using mild heat, freezing temperatures, high pressure and low-dose gamma radiation.

    But doing so "kills the taste, the texture," DeFelice said. "For our local connoisseurs, people who've grown up eating oysters all their lives, there's no comparison" between salty raw oysters and the treated kind.

    A Gulf Coast oyster — or better still, a plate of a dozen oysters on the half-shell — is a delicacy savored for its salty, refreshing, slightly slimy taste. Some people add a drop of horseradish, lemon or hot sauce on top for extra zest.

    Treated oysters are "not as bright, the texture seems different," said Donald Link, head chef and owner of the Herbsaint Bar and Restaurant in New Orleans.

    "This is an area the government shouldn't meddle in," Link said. "What's next? They're going to tell us we can't eat our beef rare?"

    Until the 1960s, raw oysters were rarely eaten in the summertime. (The old adage was never eat oysters in the months without an R in them.) But changes in harvest patterns and advances in refrigeration and post-harvest treatment have made the industry a year-round business. About three-fifths of the Gulf's oysters are harvested during the warm months.

    The FDA is promoting a ban because high-risk groups are not heeding warnings about raw oysters, and millions of other people may not know they are vulnerable.

    If federal officials require post-harvest treatment, they "will be ruining an industry that has been around for centuries," said Sal Sunseri, co-owner of P&J Oyster Co., a French Quarter oyster wholesaler.

    "We've been doing this the same way since the 1920s," said his brother, Al Sunseri, as shuckers in rubber gloves worked their way through piles of raw oysters destined for oyster bars and restaurants. "We're located in the French Quarter. We're not going to get the permits we need to do post-harvest processing. We don't have the space for it."

    In Plaquemines Parish, the Louisiana "boot" that juts into the Gulf south of New Orleans, 49-year-old oyster harvester Peter Vujnovich Jr. said the FDA was "totally out of its mind."

    Croatian-Americans like him have been harvesting oysters for decades in the area's brackish bays and lakes. He said the ban added insult to injury after he spent tens of thousands of dollars upgrading his boats to meet recent refrigeration regulations.

    The FDA contends treating oysters would not affect the taste and would save lives.

    "Oysters that undergo post-harvest processing treatment will rarely pose a problem," Taylor said, "while those left untreated can have deadly consequences."

    The FDA cited California as the best example. In 2003, California banned untreated Gulf Coast oysters and since then "the number of deaths dropped to zero." By comparison, between 1991 and 2001, 40 people died in California from the infection.

    The rule would not affect oysters harvested outside the Gulf. Oysters are harvested up and down the West and East coasts, but the bacteria is not found in such high concentrations there.

    Some in the industry, especially the handful of companies that have invested in high-tech treatment technology, praise the FDA plan.

    John Tesvich of AmeriPure Processing Co. in Franklin, La., said the industry has "suffered from all the negative publicity" associated with Vibrio vulnificus. He said his oysters, which are treated in a warm bath, taste as good as any others. "We have thousands and thousands of satisfied customers."

    But most of the oyster industry is worried.

    Anita Grove, executive director of the Apalachicola Bay Chamber of Commerce in Florida, said a ban would be crushing. She said oyster harvesters, shuckers, truckers and dealers are "the backbone to our economy. It's always been that way."

    Avery Bates, vice president of the Organized Seafood Association-Alabama, predicted two-thirds of Alabama's 50 "mom-and-pop oyster shops" would close, mostly because of the cost of treating oysters.

    "We see more people die each year from peanuts, chicken, E. coli, beef," he said. "It's like singling out a certain section of the food industry."
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    Another example of the pussification of America.
    This post has been rated R for graphic fish violence, strong language, crude humor, and pervasive gunnel hunching.

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    That really is lousy- people who are immunodeficient should not eat raw oysters- and a host of other things. Closing an industry because of 15 deaths a year? Well, there goes driving, airplanes, scuba, racing... etc.

    That's just stupid, and I hope they'll fight back against the government.

    But I still follow the adage of :
    The old adage was never eat oysters in the months without an R in them.
    "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter, and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." A. Lincoln

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    Another example of the pussification of America


    You said it brother.
    This has been in the works for awhile. They just now went public with it because they have the backing of the FDA and a few other groups.

    This country is going to shit !!

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    This country is going to shit !!
    You ain't kidding'.

    Funny reading the article, I know most of those people, and went to school with 2 of them.

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    Red Snapper, Grouper, AJ, Oysters, they're running out of stuff to ban.......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentkiller View Post
    Red Snapper, Grouper, AJ, Oysters, they're running out of stuff to ban.......................
    Dont for get black sea bass, spotted trout, and vermillion snapper as well.
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    After they're done protecting all the cute little fishes and human killing bi-valves they will move to shore and start banning doves, hogs, and whitetails, and since you can't hunt anymore might as well take your guns too! If you put a frog in comfortable water and slowly turn up the heat, he won't realize the water is boiling till it's too late. That's what's happening to us right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dive4Blood View Post
    Another example of the pussification of America.
    Next is the NFL. By the time they get done boiling us frogs we won't even be able to play kick ball.

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    Welcome to the Nanny State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades1_99 View Post
    Next is the NFL. By the time they get done boiling us frogs we won't even be able to play kick ball.
    Dodge ball has been taken out of the schools already because it is prejudicial against the slow fat kids.
    Dodgeball is the one game that included all 5 required P.E. skill. Running, jumping, throwing, catching, and fast decision making.

    The ball was also removed because it could be thrown too hard and would occasionally leave those little diamond plate looking red marks on the person hit with it.
    Now the schools have this Nerf like, light weight, wussy ball that they use for kickball. Now if you get hit, there's no satisfying "Thwack" or "Boing" like in the old days; now it's just a gentle "woosh" and it leaves the intended target wondering if they were actually hit at all.

    I talked to a middle school coach the other day who told me that in the past 20+ years as a coach, he's only had two true student injuries, i.e. broken bone & concussion, and a few sprains here & there. For the past several years, he says that he has to send kids to the clinic on a nearly daily basis because of some perceived injury.

    Welcome to the puscification of America.
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    Its not going to get better any time soon

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    Time to ban beef! Two people died (of complications)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/AGRLI...43887820091102
    "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter, and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." A. Lincoln

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