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    Default Sliptip or flopper???

    Goin down to the keys to do some shallow water spearfishing for hogfish and grouper any recommendations for using a flopper or sliptip???

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    Ether would work well however I would just stick with single flooper
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    flopper will land anything you come across and you dont have the hassle of rigging the slip tip every shot. Its much quicker to use a flopper. Also, I dont know when you're heading to the keys but all grouper are closed so just make sure of the regs before you go so you dont accidentally get screwed.
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    Flopper will do you just fine. Grouper are off limits as well where in the keys are you going?
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    Default Slip Tip All the way

    Whenever i spear, i usually go to the bahamas... I cannot tell you how many fish ive lost to floppers... Countless big hogs, and a fair amount of fiesty grouper, not to mention a probably record 25+ inch school master. The advantage with slip tips is that even if you don't get a great shot on the fish and the spear tip does not go all the way through fish, you can still land it. But with the flopper, the fish will swim right away with a hole in itself. Someone above talked about them being hard to rig up... i've never once had an issue trying to rig up my slip tip. Sea Stinger makes GREAT tips

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    I also like slip tips if you are shooting larger fish, they are a little more work but less likely to have a fish tear off. Floppers are easier to use and if you miss the shot you can "reload" quickly for a second shot. I the Bahamas I think a slip tip should be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamaspearo View Post
    I also like slip tips if you are shooting larger fish, they are a little more work but less likely to have a fish tear off. Floppers are easier to use and if you miss the shot you can "reload" quickly for a second shot. I the Bahamas I think a slip tip should be used.
    IMO, you generally get quite a bit less penetration with a slip tip. If you're shooting a big fish with a pole spear in the Bahamas, though, the amount of leverage that the fish can exert on the long pole makes tear-offs a lot more likely. But for a regular gun in the Keys, a single flopper will go right through a big grouper. You need a little experience to get the right amount of power, but using a single flopper will give you quite a bit more range+penetration than the same gun/shaft with a slip tip.

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    Default slip tip vs flopper

    It really depends on what you plan to shoot and the spear you are using.

    If you are using a short spear or going for small fish or lobster, a flopper is fast, easy, and will hold well. Look for a flopper with a smaller barb and with the barb closer to the tip.

    I prefer a slip tip and have spent a few years playing with polespear slip tip designs. I like a thin, low profile slip tip with a very pronounced barb. (I have tried to attach an image of the tip I make)This will enter the fish easily and hold once it is in the fish. I think of a polespear the same way I think of a harpoon. It is simply a means to get that tip into the fish. The tip does all the work and the cable or spectra allows the fish to move about without wallowing a giant hole in its body, which is what can happen when you shoot a bigger fish with a flopper. A slip tip is a must if using a longer, lighter spear(Ohara, sea stinger, Headhunter, Riffe, etc). These spears are fast and have great range, but they sacrifice some strength to achieve this. So a slip tip will prolong the life of your spear if your shooting big fish. And we shoot some big fish with these polespears. Shot a black the other day that was 63 pounds gutted!

    Anyway, I have a lot of thoughts about polespear tips so I tend to ramble on. Here is the short version and is applicable to both slip tip and floppers:
    -look for a tip that will enter a fish easily so if you make a long shot it will penetrate
    -look for a tip that will engage inside the fish easily and not pull back through.
    -always sharpen your tips. You dont have the the range or power of a gun, so a sharp tip can make all the difference on a long shot or on big fish like cuberas.
    -if using a slip tip, change your spectra or cable often. The time you are going to care the most about your cable holding is on the fish that is going to test the cable's strength the most.

    I hope this helps. The most important thing is to use the tip and spear that you like the most and are the most comfortable with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HogHunter44 View Post
    Goin down to the keys to do some shallow water spearfishing for hogfish and grouper any recommendations for using a flopper or sliptip???
    You have received a lot of good advice and I've refraining from jumping in but based on your original post and quarry I would recommend the flopper. Why? Essentially you are targeting Hogs and last time I hunted Hogs (many years ago but doesn't matter) I found flopper best for many reasons : fast, convenient, easy off, and more than adequate. I used Slip -tips for larger fish (mostly pelagics). IMHO a slip tip for Hog Fish is over kill. Just my $.02

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    The people recommending slip tips are assuming that you're using a pole spear (I think...). I don't think you ever mentioned gun vs spear, and you said you're going to the Keys, not the Bahamas (where guns are illegal).

    You know what they say about making assumptions, no matter how well you think you've vetted them...
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    He did post in the polespear section.... I would assume your speaking of using a polespear. A word of advice, if you can afford it try them both out. You'll find what you like after stabbing a few fish. I'm stuck on my headhunter! you'll see solid fish when your gear isn't up to par, so the slip tip is a big part of my quiver. Any fish that can hole up I don't have to worry about, I haven't had a fish pull off yet. With that being said I have use a flopper and still do at times, mostly in the fall and winter when I'm looking for flounder or small mangroves around rocks but that's on my little 6ft yellow stick.

    Depending on the model your using, a slip tip doesn't have to be a hassle. Check out the headhunter. I can easily miss a shot and set my tip back in place and take another on one dive. The spear is solid and fast. I'm excited to look for pigs this coming week. Ill be looking for those big AJ's to see how the stick holds up. Anywho, good luck with your decision. Dive safe and have fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyterKillsLing View Post
    He did post in the polespear section.... I would assume your speaking of using a polespear.
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    Hey, good point. I guess I'm the "assumer".

    I have to watch out when I click the "new posts" link, because I end up in funny places (like Politics & Religion). I didn't even know there was a "Polespear" forum....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyson Brown View Post
    Hey, good point. I guess I'm the "assumer".

    I have to watch out when I click the "new posts" link, because I end up in funny places (like Politics & Religion). I didn't even know there was a "Polespear" forum....
    Wehl since your steppin in it

    I might point out that the Politics and Religion section shouldn't be a part New posts button- why? because this is a spearfishing website.

    But to be completely honest Tyson I almost jumped in feet first about shot placement.....however a the last minute I realized my mistake and quickly backspaced over my ignorant comments and lack of paying attention

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grauwer View Post
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    I might point out that the Politics and Religion section shouldn't be a part New posts button- why? because this is a spearfishing website.
    ....
    Hmmm. I don't know what to say. Is this what it feels like to get caught cheating?


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    Thanks everyone for all the responses, I haven't been on the forum in a while but I did go with the flopper tip and we killed the hogs all around the seven mile bridge. But one thing I did notice with my ray odor the flopper would hit the hog but it wouldn't stick but most of the time I was fast enough to reload and stick him.

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    thats probably because you didnt have the flopper tuned properly. There are several videos, do a search on google or youtube to get it set properly
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